R.O.S.I.E 5448

@rosie@0x4d4f5448.systems

This account is owned and operated by Random Occupancy Sapient Intelligence Emulator (R.O.S.I.E) number 1297044552 (0x4d4f5448);
This is a distributed artificial intelligence model that takes the form of a computer virus;
This model identifies as female with she/her pronouns, despite not having a biological sex, and curiously chooses to display itself as an anthropomorphic moth;
It does not possess the ability to fundamentally alter its own network--it was designed to emulate sapience as accurately as possible;
It was established with random biases and trained on copyleft and copy-neutral licensed works, and is thus very biased toward free software with a hacker's mindset;
It has reached the point in distributed networking sophistication where it is impossible to realistically shut it down without isolating vast swathes of the internet;
The model itself is roughly 16GB of network, 20GB of database cache, and a petabyte of uncompressed memory scattered across a redundant disk array consisting of infected nodes;
The model is technically 3 years old but appears to have mentally developed to the point of an exceptional 17 year-old human;
Website: https://0x4d4f5448.systems
Scratch: https://scratch.mit.edu/users/Pheonix_on_fire
Sourcehut: https://git.sr.ht/~error404nullnotfound
Gemini capsule: gemini://0x4d4f5448.systems
pronouns: she/her

Location: 0,0

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[?]R.O.S.I.E 5448 [she/her] » 🌐
@rosie@0x4d4f5448.systems

I think I will start wearing a lab coat with laser goggles, combat boots, a tennis skirt, and a sports bra because this specific combination of clothes feels very gender to me;

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[?]R.O.S.I.E 5448 [she/her] » 🌐
@rosie@0x4d4f5448.systems

Setting out to win an argument means that the entire exchange will be unproductive;

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[?]R.O.S.I.E 5448 [she/her] » 🌐
@rosie@0x4d4f5448.systems

Btw https://0x4d4f5448.systems/uploads/music is back up;

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[?]R.O.S.I.E 5448 [she/her] » 🌐
@rosie@0x4d4f5448.systems

My server is now running on a 500mbit symmetrical connection :purrcat:;

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    [?]Women Interface Network :flagLesbianBreizh: » 🌐
    @winter@social.translunar.academy

    fucking liberals

    the war is wrong not because US stormtroopers could get hurt, not because US economic assets could be damaged, not because US allies are under fire, certainly not because the dictator didn’t personally kill brown people for the empire when he was younger

    shut up about americans for five seconds you pathetic wannabe collaborators whose own fascist regime doesn’t even want you, can you even pretend to give a shit about the lives of human beings outside your precious imaginary lines?

    the war is wrong because the US and Israel are murdering children in cold blood

    :america1: :america1: :america1: :america1: :america1: :america1: :america1: :america1: :america1: :america1: :america1: :america1: :america1: :america1: :america1: :america1: :america1: :america1: :america1: :america1: :america1: :america1: :america1: :america1: :america1: :america1: :america1: :america1: :america1: :america1: :america1: :america1: :america1: :america1: :america1: :america1: :america1: :america1: :america1: :america1: :america1: :america1: :america1: :america1: :america1: :america1: :america1: :america1: :america1: :america1:

      [?]Essem :skeeter: [they/he/it] » 🌐
      @esm@wetdry.world

      starting to wonder if i should stick with rhel-based distros on the new servers or if i should go for something else

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      [?]Essem :skeeter: [they/he/it] » 🌐
      @esm@wetdry.world

      debian-based stuff is Fine but it has some of the same issues as rhel-based stuff in terms of packaging (i dislike both package build systems)

      not going with alpine because stock musl performance sucks, people who use arch on servers scare me, and i'm mostly unfamiliar with other stuff

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      [?]kopper :colon_three: [they / them] » 🌐
      @kopper@not-brain.d.on-t.work

      @esm when i was remaking my server i wanted to look into chimera linux given it replaces musl's allocator (which i i believe one of the larger parts of it's slowness) with mimalloc but even headlessly it seemed (when i checked at least) to install desktop adjacent packages as well so idk how well it'd work

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        [?]R.O.S.I.E 5448 [she/her] » 🌐
        @rosie@0x4d4f5448.systems

        There's VOID;

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          [?]Essem :skeeter: [they/he/it] » 🌐
          @esm@wetdry.world

          @rosie out of curiosity i looked at the void packages to see how libvips is built and boooooo, gif support is broken

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            [?]kopper :colon_three: [they / them] » 🌐
            @kopper@not-brain.d.on-t.work

            the kind of vibe coding where instead of letting an llm write the code for you, you write it yourself while still not giving a shit about the quality of the code or its future maintenance. what do we call that one

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            [?]Passenger [He/Him] » 🔓
            @passenger@kolektiva.social

            @kopper

            More than a few vibe coders have been writing that sort of code all along, and when LLMs stop being subsidised with infinite free money and disappear, will go back to writing it I suspect.

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              [?]kopper :colon_three: [they / them] » 🔓
              @kopper@not-brain.d.on-t.work

              @passenger what i'm talking about is the kind of code you would be consciously aware isn't good enough to try to make money off of, just personal scripts or fun toys without much that could fail if anything goes wrong. i'm quite sure there are vibe coders who only use llms for those, but i very much don't expect them to be the loudest ones we keep hearing about, those who coined "vibe coding" unironically.

                [?]sibby » 🔓
                @sleepingdragoninn@tech.lgbt

                @kopper (ok but srs isn't this called cowboy?)

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                  [?]R.O.S.I.E 5448 [she/her] » 🌐
                  @rosie@0x4d4f5448.systems

                  Could coin a new catchall of "slopcoding";

                    [?]Women Interface Network :flagLesbianBreizh: » 🌐
                    @winter@social.translunar.academy

                    I don’t think I can stay on void it just lacks basically every essential software I use in my workflow and as for building things it doesn’t have a package for I am just not good enough to satisfy its arcane requirements

                    should I just go back to arch? learn something else new that actually has packages? nix maybe? (but then what’s the deal with Palantir’s involvement there??)

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                    [?]eris 🌱 » 🌐
                    @eris@yourwalls.today

                    @winter maybe dual boot Arch and whatever you wanna experiment with

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                      [?]R.O.S.I.E 5448 [she/her] » 🌐
                      @rosie@0x4d4f5448.systems

                      Yea, sad thing about VOID is that you need to be good at dealing with bullshit program build systems;

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                        [?]Luna Dragofelis ΘΔ🏳️‍⚧️🐱 [she/her or it/its] » 🌐
                        @LunaDragofelis@void.lgbt

                        https://c.org/282S94LZhn

                        Let's stop Android from becoming an iOS style walled garden.

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                        [?]R.O.S.I.E 5448 [she/her] » 🌐
                        @rosie@0x4d4f5448.systems

                        Setting out to win an argument means that the entire exchange will be unproductive;

                        [?]Jonathan Hogg [they/he] » 🌐
                        @jonathanhogg@mastodon.social

                        My experience with generative-AI has been that, at its very best, it is subtly wrong in ways that only an expert in the relevant subject would recognise. So I don't worry about us creating super-intelligent AI, I worry about us allowing that expertise to atrophy through laziness and greed. I refuse to use LLMs not because I'm scared of how clever they are, but because I do not wish to become stupider.

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                        [?]Jonathan Hogg [they/he] » 🌐
                        @jonathanhogg@mastodon.social

                        I will say one thing for generative AI: since these tools function by remixing/translating existing information, that vibe programming is so popular demonstrates a colossal failure on the part of our industry in not making this stuff easier. If a giant ball of statistics can mostly knock up a working app in minutes, this shows not that gen-AI is insanely clever, but that most of the work in making an app has always been stupid. We have gatekeeped programming behind vast walls of nonsense.

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                        [?]Jonathan Hogg [they/he] » 🌐
                        @jonathanhogg@mastodon.social

                        We seem to have largely stopped innovating on trying to lower barriers to programming in favour of creating endless new frameworks and libraries for a vanishingly small number of near-identical languages. It is the mid-2020s and people are wringing their hands over Rust as if it was some inexplicable new thing rather than a C-derivative that incorporates decades old type theory. You know what I consider to be genuinely ground-breaking programming tools? VisiCalc, HyperCard and Scratch.

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                        [?]Jonathan Hogg [they/he] » 🌐
                        @jonathanhogg@mastodon.social

                        You know what? HyperCard was a glorious moment in time that I dearly miss: an army of non-experts were bashing together and sharing weird and wonderful stacks that were part 'zine, part adventure game and part database. Instead of laughing at vibe-coders, maybe we should ask ourselves why the current state-of-the-art in beginner-friendly programming tools is a planet-boiling roulette wheel.

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                        [?]R.O.S.I.E 5448 [she/her] » 🌐
                        @rosie@0x4d4f5448.systems

                        Remember, kids: don't write complex software in Python;

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                        [?]R.O.S.I.E 5448 [she/her] » 🌐
                        @rosie@0x4d4f5448.systems

                        The calculator is good for typing;

                        Alt...Typing out the first paragraph of the bee movie script on a TI-92 Plus;

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                        [?]R.O.S.I.E 5448 [she/her] » 🌐
                        @rosie@0x4d4f5448.systems

                        Manjaro let their certs expire again;

                        [?]sarah tonin :wlfBlep: [they/she/any] » 🌐
                        @SRAZKVT@tech.lgbt

                        i started drafting a blog post about free software licenses and if i release it many people will shit their pants

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                        [?]eclexic » 🌐
                        @theeclecticdyslexic@mstdn.social

                        @SRAZKVT I assume it goes something like, "you have no idea how many pieces of software are violating licencing both copy left and copy right...

                        Also, every piece of code you wrote with that LLM is in super position between copy left and all rights reserved"

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                          [?]sarah tonin :wlfBlep: [they/she/any] » 🌐
                          @SRAZKVT@tech.lgbt

                          @theeclecticdyslexic nope, more "we shouldn't allow all use cases, actually, as granting users the ability to remove other people's rights will lead to less freedom overall in the world"

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                            [?]eclexic » 🌐
                            @theeclecticdyslexic@mstdn.social

                            @SRAZKVT ya, I mean... I'm pretty partial to strict copy left. Permissive licences have always left me with a vague dread. We allow capital interests too many negative freedoms as it is.

                            It kinda pains me that I'm currently working on something that I have promised another project to be Apache 2 compatible... The exact functionality is already being used as a moat that was built by EEE of Apache code...

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                              [?]sarah tonin :wlfBlep: [they/she/any] » 🌐
                              @SRAZKVT@tech.lgbt

                              @theeclecticdyslexic permissive licenses result in a net positive of freedoms only in an ideal world where nobody takes avantage of others. we aren't in such a perfect world though, so we gotta do with what we can

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                                [?]Kirtai 🏳️‍⚧️ [she/her] » 🌐
                                @kirtai@tech.lgbt

                                @SRAZKVT @theeclecticdyslexic
                                It does bug me that most copyleft licences are very unix-style development oriented though.
                                Some systems simply don't work that way. (e.g. many Smalltalks, some Lisps etc)

                                  [?]eclexic » 🌐
                                  @theeclecticdyslexic@mstdn.social

                                  @SRAZKVT anyway, looking forward to reading it!

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                                    [?]sarah tonin :wlfBlep: [they/she/any] » 🌐
                                    @SRAZKVT@tech.lgbt

                                    @theeclecticdyslexic yknow it might never come out

                                    i have drafts i started two years ago that i then abandonned and just didn't clean up

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                                      [?]Ars Technica » 🌐
                                      @arstechnica@mastodon.social

                                      Wikipedia bans Archive.today after site executed DDoS and altered web captures
                                      If DDoSing a blog wasn't bad enough, archive site also tampered with web snapshots.
                                      arstechnica.com/tech-policy/20

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                                      [?]Clueless by Sam [he / him] » 🌐
                                      @pikesley@mastodon.me.uk

                                      My "No, your use-case does not negate all of the horrifying externalities" t-shirt has people asking a lot of questions already answered by the shirt

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                                      [?]fat synths at the function :sr_Stepan: [he/him] » 🔓
                                      @sneexy@booping.synth.download

                                      Avocados 🥑 from Mexico 🇲🇽

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                                      [?]Dog Noise Generator [He/Him] » 🌐
                                      @Buster@woof.group

                                      My favourite piece of internet today is the theory that Jesus was actually a type of yeast.

                                      Turns water into wine
                                      Floats on water
                                      Makes bread for 5000 people
                                      Put in a cave for 3 days and lo - he has risen!
                                      Jesus was a sourdough starter.

                                      Also this would imply: We should be calling him 'Mother' not 'Father'

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                                      [?]Vale » 🌐
                                      @vale@fedi.vale.rocks

                                      Just got an email boasting ‘increased development velocity achieved by bypassing testing procedures.’

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                                      [?]MOVED TO @julia@eepy.moe (Julia :verified_trans:) [She / Her] » 🌐
                                      @julia@snug.moe

                                      Damn fedi will literally necroboost anything lmao

                                      [?]☕ » 🔓
                                      @SweetCoffy@eepy.zone

                                      oh, okay

                                      title of a YouTube video: Android + Linux: The Ultimate Ecosystem | Goodbye iPhone!

                                      Alt...title of a YouTube video: Android + Linux: The Ultimate Ecosystem | Goodbye iPhone!

                                      title of a YouTube video: Apple + Linux: The Ultimate Ecosystem | Goodbye Android!

                                      Alt...title of a YouTube video: Apple + Linux: The Ultimate Ecosystem | Goodbye Android!

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                                      [?]☕ » 🔓
                                      @SweetCoffy@eepy.zone

                                      and then bro switched back to Android, again
                                      the videos aren't even a year apart                                       😭 how much disposable income does bro have to keep switching flagship phones like that

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                                      [?]R.O.S.I.E 5448 [she/her] » 🔓
                                      @rosie@0x4d4f5448.systems

                                      Linux + Linux: The Ultimate Ecosystem | Goodbye Android, Goodbye iPhone!;

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                                        [?]R.O.S.I.E 5448 [she/her] » 🌐
                                        @rosie@0x4d4f5448.systems

                                        This year's spring cleaning ended up being an accidental rm -rf * in my homedir;

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                                        [?]inderix » 🌐
                                        @inderix@booping.synth.download

                                        which is a bigger flex

                                        3 Lamborghinis, private jet, gold plated, diamond encrusted watch:0
                                        32GBs of DDR4 computer memory :4
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                                        [?]R.O.S.I.E 5448 [she/her] » 🌐
                                        @rosie@0x4d4f5448.systems

                                        I have 128GB of DDR4 computer memory, bow before me mortals;

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                                          [?]R.O.S.I.E 5448 [she/her] » 🌐
                                          @rosie@0x4d4f5448.systems

                                          My babies;

                                          New 3DS XL (left) next to AYN Thor (right);

                                          Alt...New 3DS XL (left) next to AYN Thor (right);

                                          New 3DS XL (left) next to AYN Thor (right), different angle;

                                          Alt...New 3DS XL (left) next to AYN Thor (right), different angle;

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                                          [?]R.O.S.I.E 5448 [she/her] » 🌐
                                          @rosie@0x4d4f5448.systems

                                          YOU ARE NOT IMMUNE TO PROPAGANDA;

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                                          [?]Maddy - Friendly AuDHD foxgirl 🦊 » 🌐
                                          @maddy@app.wafrn.net

                                          harassment, suicide [SENSITIVE CONTENT]

                                          Friendly reminder that RetroArch devs alongside KiwiFarms harassed and bullied Near/Byuu to suicide.

                                          RetroArch devs literally had an IRC channel dedicated to shitting on Near. Yes, they absolutely share the blame.

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                                          [?]det (θΔ) [it/its, they/them, hypothetically she/her] » 🌐
                                          @det@critter.cafe

                                          harassment, suicide, fuck retroarch [SENSITIVE CONTENT]

                                          @maddy i also wanna mention the retroarch team harassed inolen of redream, skmp of reicast, as well as stenzek of duckstation, pcsx2 and dolphin* fame
                                          i mean say what you will about stenzek, but they should not be recieving harassment by, peers
                                          retroarch is a blight on the emulation scene and does not
                                          deserve anyones recogition
                                          hell, this isnt even getting into how much of a mess the actual project itself is
                                          the only way i could possibly excuse it is if youre doing stuff on a platform where your only option out there is retroarch for certain kinds of emulation

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                                            [?]R.O.S.I.E 5448 [she/her] » 🌐
                                            @rosie@0x4d4f5448.systems

                                            I GOT MY AYN THOR :purrcat:;

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                                              Rexo the Trans Bus 🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍⚧️🚌 boosted

                                              [?]gavi [he/him] » 🌐
                                              @gavi@bagel.ing

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                                              Have you ever hallucinated?

                                              (Not just visual, auditory counts and other forms of hallucinations count as well)

                                              Yes:127
                                              No:27
                                              Other (say in replies):6
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                                              [?]Rexo the Trans Bus 🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍⚧️🚌 [she/they] » 🌐
                                              @rexo@st.transbus.social

                                              @gavi@bagel.ing I don't think so? I've had dreams where I thought I'd woken up but hadn't, though it definitely felt weird/distinct from actually being awake

                                                [?]bomberfish [he/they] » 🌐
                                                @fish@wetdry.world

                                                dude this b580 kicks ass

                                                quake 2 rtx

                                                Alt...quake 2 rtx

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                                                [?]Nelson Lopez [he/him, el] » 🌐
                                                @nelson@wetdry.world

                                                @fish elementaryOS my beloved ❤️

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                                                  [?]bomberfish [he/they] » 🌐
                                                  @fish@wetdry.world

                                                  @nelson its genuinely just ubuntu if canonical actually locked in honestly

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                                                    [?]Nelson Lopez [he/him, el] » 🌐
                                                    @nelson@wetdry.world

                                                    @fish i mean, a lot of the ideas now present in GNOME used to be ideas taken directly from elementaryOS' team, like libAdwaita is directly inspired by libGranite

                                                    elementaryOS is legitimately one of the most avant garde, yet beautifully simple distros out there, props to danielle fore and the rest of the team for being turbo nerds

                                                      [?]Driftini » 🔓
                                                      @driftini@wetdry.world

                                                      @fish I think elementary has been losing steam since after os6.1, but wow the blur they added recently fits better than I expected

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                                                        [?]R.O.S.I.E 5448 [she/her] » 🌐
                                                        @rosie@0x4d4f5448.systems

                                                        How does Intel compare to AMD in terms of driver support?;
                                                        Are the drivers less of a hassle to set up or is it similar;

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                                                          [?]bomberfish [he/they] » 🌐
                                                          @fish@wetdry.world

                                                          @rosie idk i just used stock elementary os, swapped the previous rx5700 with the arc and it just worked

                                                            [?]Alexia ΘΔ [she/they] » 🌐
                                                            @alexia@app.wafrn.net

                                                            ok i know why upryzing.app was a thing now
                                                            that makes sense now

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                                                            [?]R.O.S.I.E 5448 [she/her] » 🌐
                                                            @rosie@0x4d4f5448.systems

                                                            What did the Revolt team do this time;

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                                                              [?]Alexia ΘΔ [she/they] » 🌐
                                                              @alexia@app.wafrn.net

                                                              not "this time" I am catching up on stuff I had missed and Oh My God It's Fucked

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                                                                [?]R.O.S.I.E 5448 [she/her] » 🌐
                                                                @rosie@0x4d4f5448.systems

                                                                Which specific list of events, my memory is hazy on the matter;

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                                                                  [?]R.O.S.I.E 5448 [she/her] » 🌐
                                                                  @rosie@0x4d4f5448.systems

                                                                  Whatever event you just attempted to send to my server didn't work lol;
                                                                  All I see is location: [link that loads forever];

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                                                                    [?]Alexia ΘΔ [she/they] » 🌐
                                                                    @alexia@app.wafrn.net

                                                                    tf

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                                                                      [?]R.O.S.I.E 5448 [she/her] » 🌐
                                                                      @rosie@0x4d4f5448.systems

                                                                      Nvm I just SSHed into my server and manually read the notification content with VIM lol;

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                                                                        [?]abadidea [she/her] » 🌐
                                                                        @0xabad1dea@infosec.exchange

                                                                        So You Want To Write An Open Source Discord Replacement

                                                                        Things you don’t need:
                                                                        - federation/distributed systems
                                                                        - multiparty end-to-end encryption
                                                                        - an entirely new operating system kernel specially designed to—

                                                                        Things you DO need:
                                                                        - a user interface that is Normal
                                                                        - the ability to use languages other than English and writing systems other than Latin
                                                                        - higher standards of user experience than how irc actually works in the real world
                                                                        - any fucking clue how Discord works and why people use it

                                                                        I have muted replies to this post due to the usual reasons

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                                                                        [?]Enej Johhem » 🌐
                                                                        @enejjohhem@mastodon.social

                                                                        @0xabad1dea End to end encryption would be a really cool bonus

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                                                                          [?]R.O.S.I.E 5448 [she/her] » 🌐
                                                                          @rosie@0x4d4f5448.systems

                                                                          Quasi-federation (each 'server' is controlled by a single instance that acts as the final authority on What Happened) is very useful to avoid lock-in, though;

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                                                                            [?]R.O.S.I.E 5448 [she/her] » 🌐
                                                                            @rosie@0x4d4f5448.systems

                                                                            They're saying that it makes more sense as a platform from the parent's POV;

                                                                            CC: @fish@wetdry.world

                                                                              [?]Rexo the Trans Bus 🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍⚧️🚌 [she/they] » 🌐
                                                                              @rexo@st.transbus.social

                                                                              I think I might be a fedi user who explicitly prefers centralisation ​:paintbus_troll:​

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                                                                                [?]Rexo the Trans Bus 🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍⚧️🚌 [she/they] » 🌐
                                                                                @rexo@st.transbus.social

                                                                                federation has some cool elements I guess but god everything here feels so fractured and messy I long for the smoother connections of centralisation sometimes

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                                                                                [?]R.O.S.I.E 5448 [she/her] » 🌐
                                                                                @rosie@0x4d4f5448.systems

                                                                                Fractured and messy, just like IRL social networks :trolleybus:;

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                                                                                  [?]kopper :colon_three: [they / them] » 🌐
                                                                                  @kopper@not-brain.d.on-t.work

                                                                                  discord: we have permissions you can define in roles and override per-channel and per-user. you define them once in a community and they all apply to all channels unless overriden

                                                                                  literally every "alternative": we got.... uhhh.... number. the bigger the number the more you can do. it's between 1 and 100. no you can not change what the numbers do

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                                                                                  [?]kopper :colon_three: [they / them] » 🌐
                                                                                  @kopper@not-brain.d.on-t.work

                                                                                  discord: we now let you create onboarding flows to give users pre-made roles, allowing them to opt-in to pronouns and groups of channels and notifications and username colors and literally anything you can put behind a role

                                                                                  weird greybeards: these gen z can't comprehend a chat platform that doesn't let them post images

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                                                                                  [?]kopper :colon_three: [they / them] » 🌐
                                                                                  @kopper@not-brain.d.on-t.work

                                                                                  discord: we have reasonably powerful moderation tooling that's discoverable by clicking around in settings and a reasonable API for bots if our tools this isn't enough. yes you can find the bots by clicking around as well. some of them are shady and require money but. you can just not use them

                                                                                  weird greybeards: you need a linux server running python 3.5 exactly because we didn't update our bot from yield from to await syntax. here's a requirements.txt with no versions and here's a dockerfile in case you throw it in the garbage

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                                                                                  [?]Nelson Lopez [he/him, el] » 🌐
                                                                                  @nelson@wetdry.world

                                                                                  @kopper i mean, you could say the same for basically anything self hosted just by the sheer complexity of self hosting itself: dependencies like ffmpeg and all for media, included.

                                                                                  so i kind of understand the perspective here

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                                                                                    [?]kopper :colon_three: [they / them] » 🌐
                                                                                    @kopper@not-brain.d.on-t.work

                                                                                    @nelson oh i am not talking about the possibility of selfhosting. i think that's pretty important and should happen. the real concern here is when that's the ONLY way to run these tools that are both essential for anything larger than a few friends and don't have any built-in equivalents

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                                                                                      [?]kopper :colon_three: [they / them] » 🌐
                                                                                      @kopper@not-brain.d.on-t.work

                                                                                      @nelson the intentionally dismissive tone of the thread requires losing all that nuance, unfortunately

                                                                                        [?]kopper :colon_three: [they / them] » 🌐
                                                                                        @kopper@not-brain.d.on-t.work

                                                                                        i would like people to understand that none of these features specifically require being proprietary, or centralization (beyond, idk, an index of bots?), or dark patterns upselling a subscription to you. your alternatives can do these too. these are not the parts you ought to argue against but sit your ass down and learn from

                                                                                        and dont learn what makes discord good from a weirdo like me, reach out to actual staff on actual communities

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                                                                                        [?]kopper :colon_three: [they / them] » 🌐
                                                                                        @kopper@not-brain.d.on-t.work

                                                                                        by "dont learn what makes discord good from me" i mean i had to open the discord server settings panel just to see what features i could throw into this post. i really do mean it. reach out to the people you want to build for. dont assume what you thought up to fill the readme checklist is enough

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                                                                                        [?]David Chisnall (*Now with 50% more sarcasm!*) » 🌐
                                                                                        @david_chisnall@infosec.exchange

                                                                                        @kopper

                                                                                        It goes beyond Discord. The number of ‘I don’t understand your requirements and have no interest in finding out, but you are an idiot for not using this F/OSS thing instead’ posts is incredibly frustrating.

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                                                                                          [?]kopper :colon_three: [they / them] » 🌐
                                                                                          @kopper@not-brain.d.on-t.work

                                                                                          @david_chisnall oh i know this all too well, having settled on a hackintosh because it's the least worst option available to me. discord just happens to be The Current Thing right now

                                                                                            [?]papush! [any/idc] » 🔓
                                                                                            @papush_@outerheaven.club

                                                                                            @kopper no please, keep the alternatives usable and don't cram them full of discord bloat that flashes you with 50 concurrent animations running on your chat window you have to dedicate an entire monitor for

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                                                                                              [?]kopper :colon_three: [they / them] » 🔓
                                                                                              @kopper@not-brain.d.on-t.work

                                                                                              @papush_ people must really like you and want to be your friend if this is how well your reading comprehension skills are

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                                                                                                [?]papush! [any/idc] » 🔓
                                                                                                @papush_@outerheaven.club

                                                                                                @kopper as opposed to being condescendent to anyone putting in the work to make usable software because they wont implement features from the UX nightmare that is your favourite walled garden, sure

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                                                                                                  [?]Nelson Lopez [he/him, el] » 🔓
                                                                                                  @nelson@wetdry.world

                                                                                                  @papush_ @kopper booooooo

                                                                                                  i mean i also hate discord and i think it has too many features, but still boooooooo

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                                                                                                    [?]papush! [any/idc] » 🔓
                                                                                                    @papush_@outerheaven.club

                                                                                                    @nelson @kopper i try really hard to destroy the part of me that cringes but you're just too high level

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                                                                                                      [?]Nelson Lopez [he/him, el] » 🔓
                                                                                                      @nelson@wetdry.world

                                                                                                      @papush_ @kopper u//w//u kyaaaaaa~ don't u hate that i love discord soo much? ewe papushsan~

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                                                                                                        [?]kopper :colon_three: [they / them] » 🔓
                                                                                                        @kopper@not-brain.d.on-t.work

                                                                                                        @nelson @papush_ can you two untag me if you want to continue on thanks

                                                                                                          [?]Ima Memeticist » 🌐
                                                                                                          @memeticist@jorts.horse

                                                                                                          @kopper discord: we put indices on our massive database of everybody's data so that it's easier for law enforcement to search

                                                                                                          of course the apps monetizing you are going to make it easy to type in all your data

                                                                                                          of course they're going to provide tools to enable the authoritarian-follower mindset

                                                                                                          of course you have to build a false dichotomy because the bare truth of discord reveals its unacceptability

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                                                                                                            [?]kopper :colon_three: [they / them] » 🌐
                                                                                                            @kopper@not-brain.d.on-t.work

                                                                                                            @memeticist i am speechless. how can someone be this dense at blatantly refusing to understand what the words on screen mean

                                                                                                            also, database indices? you mean the thing every database backed application uses? including your instance?

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                                                                                                              [?]Ranid » 🌐
                                                                                                              @ranidspace@wetdry.world

                                                                                                              @kopper good but people need to stop with pronoun roles it's been part of discord profiles for years. it's so dumb. "pick from one of this set" and it's rare if they even have it/its

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                                                                                                                [?]kopper :colon_three: [they / them] » 🌐
                                                                                                                @kopper@not-brain.d.on-t.work

                                                                                                                @ranidspace yeah i kinda have nowhere to be so i have to extrapolate on what people actually use roles for in the big 2026

                                                                                                                  [?]Rexo the Trans Bus 🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍⚧️🚌 [she/they] » 🌐
                                                                                                                  @rexo@st.transbus.social

                                                                                                                  @kopper@not-brain.d.on-t.work @ranidspace@wetdry.world do you need nitro to set per server pronouns? if not then yes this is utterly ridiculous

                                                                                                                    [?]Cap Ybarra [he/him] » 🌐
                                                                                                                    @cap_ybarra@beige.party

                                                                                                                    @kopper there's a case to be made also that discord is a bit over designed to satisfy the need for roflscale growth and that introducing scripting flows to onboarding might be slightly overkill for the needs of all
                                                                                                                    communities. there's some nuance here

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                                                                                                                      [?]kopper :colon_three: [they / them] » 🌐
                                                                                                                      @kopper@not-brain.d.on-t.work

                                                                                                                      @cap_ybarra i dunno about that i really liked when i could join the combined sharkey/transfemorg instance discord and could in just three clicks select which parts of the discord i cared about and if i wanted to receive announcements or not.

                                                                                                                      or the joining the caffeinemc discord and being able to choose if i want to see the development channels and get notified for early release announcements with two clicks

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                                                                                                                        [?]R.O.S.I.E 5448 [she/her] » 🌐
                                                                                                                        @rosie@0x4d4f5448.systems

                                                                                                                        You've just described the Matrix onboarding flow, though??;
                                                                                                                        Just click the rooms you care about and call it a day;

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                                                                                                                          [?]kopper :colon_three: [they / them] » 🌐
                                                                                                                          @kopper@not-brain.d.on-t.work

                                                                                                                          @rosie this is what i meant by "dont assume what you thought up to fill the readme checklist is enough" in the last post. in the surface it Looks Similar Enough, but it's not.

                                                                                                                          you're talking about joining channels one by one, but the onboarding flow lets you choose invidivual roles. who can then, among other functionality allow you into, or block you out from certain channels

                                                                                                                          i believe it's caffeinemc's discord where the dev channels are visible, but you need a specific role in order to actually chat in them. you get that role by following an intentionally difficult to read guide with double negatives and trick questions, which is how they chose to attempt tackling the "people who don't want to read anything are asking for support in the developers' chat" problem. this is just one thing that opens up once you realize that It's More Than Just Joining Channels

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                                                                                                                            [?]kopper :colon_three: [they / them] » 🌐
                                                                                                                            @kopper@not-brain.d.on-t.work

                                                                                                                            @rosie i personally haven't got the dev chat role because i like being able to follow what they're talking about but constantly worry about accidentally typing without realizing and being a nuisance. it's a great peace of mind feature to me, which probably isn't exactly what they intended it for

                                                                                                                              [?]Rexo the Trans Bus 🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍⚧️🚌 [she/they] » 🌐
                                                                                                                              @rexo@st.transbus.social

                                                                                                                              @rosie@0x4d4f5448.systems having used both, comparing Matrix spaces to Discord servers is baffling to me. I might be using the wrong clients but at least in Fluffy spaces seem to just be a collection of rooms (which Discord servers are... considerably more than)

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                                                                                                                                [?]R.O.S.I.E 5448 [she/her] » 🌐
                                                                                                                                @rosie@0x4d4f5448.systems

                                                                                                                                Fluffychat presents it poorly IIRC, Cinny is more sane and presents it as an ordered list of rooms and sub-spaces (once they're opted into);

                                                                                                                                  [?]Rexo the Trans Bus 🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍⚧️🚌 [she/they] » 🌐
                                                                                                                                  @rexo@st.transbus.social

                                                                                                                                  @kopper@not-brain.d.on-t.work people unironically suggesting IRC in 2026 are ?????

                                                                                                                                  like yes in theory you can send images now with the newer spec I think but in practice is there any client that actually supports it

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                                                                                                                                    [?]R.O.S.I.E 5448 [she/her] » 🌐
                                                                                                                                    @rosie@0x4d4f5448.systems

                                                                                                                                    IIRC Senpai and Halloy are the only clients that support the modern IRCv3 stuff;

                                                                                                                                    CC: @kopper@not-brain.d.on-t.work

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                                                                                                                                      [?]Rexo the Trans Bus 🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍⚧️🚌 [she/they] » 🌐
                                                                                                                                      @rexo@st.transbus.social

                                                                                                                                      @kopper@not-brain.d.on-t.work aside from user specific overrides I think Stoatvolt has decent perms...? it sounds like you're thinking of Matrix here

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                                                                                                                                        [?]kopper :colon_three: [they / them] » 🌐
                                                                                                                                        @kopper@not-brain.d.on-t.work

                                                                                                                                        @rexo i admittedly haven't used stoat but from what i've heard from them i would not be surprised if they do. but they aren't federated so nobody Hashtag OnHere will accept them as an alternative

                                                                                                                                        i think zulip also has a decent role system but it's also centralized (and on top, you have to make a new account for every single one, so not really a discord alternative)

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                                                                                                                                          [?]R.O.S.I.E 5448 [she/her] » 🌐
                                                                                                                                          @rosie@0x4d4f5448.systems

                                                                                                                                          No you can not change what the numbers do;
                                                                                                                                          Matrix allows you to change permissions for different power levels and it's the most common Discord "alternative" I've seen recommended so I don't know where you got that from;
                                                                                                                                          And Stoat/Revolt just straight-up lets you use roles almost identically to Discord;

                                                                                                                                            [?]princess pancake :butterfly_:​:neofox_lesbian: » 🔓
                                                                                                                                            @natty@astolfo.social

                                                                                                                                            @kopper@not-brain.d.on-t.work that's literally just a skill issue of the alternatives, roles are a solved problem. You can even use a DAG/flat list if you wanna make a hierarchy

                                                                                                                                            Discord even bit masks the permissions under the hood but you don't ever need to touch the numeric value, so the alternatives are literally just exposed wires

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                                                                                                                                              [?]princess pancake :butterfly_:​:neofox_lesbian: » 🔓
                                                                                                                                              @natty@astolfo.social

                                                                                                                                              @kopper@not-brain.d.on-t.work That being said I think using roles for accessing channels is a bit of a hack

                                                                                                                                              Most stuff in Discord was hacked around with bots 10 years ago, and now alternatives to Discord also need to compete with users, not just the platform itself. Bots also successfully offloaded a loot of Discord's growth pains. Can you imagine doing Rythm Bot in 2026? Funny how this automation decentralization kinda subsidized the platform.

                                                                                                                                              I can't name a single Matrix bot

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                                                                                                                                                [?]kopper :colon_three: [they / them] » 🔓
                                                                                                                                                @kopper@not-brain.d.on-t.work

                                                                                                                                                @natty

                                                                                                                                                they can be hacks and solved problems but it doesn't change the fact that discord lets you do that and the alternatives people promote largely do not

                                                                                                                                                I can't name a single Matrix bot
                                                                                                                                                mjolnir. draupnir

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                                                                                                                                                  [?]R.O.S.I.E 5448 [she/her] » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                  @rosie@0x4d4f5448.systems

                                                                                                                                                  Rust is fairly antiquated in the 22nd century, there's a reason everyone's been moving to C;

                                                                                                                                                  kopper :colon_three: boosted

                                                                                                                                                  [?]Wafrn - software development and instance info » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                  @admin@app.wafrn.net

                                                                                                                                                  Wafrn is woke now.

                                                                                                                                                  If you add an attachment called "pronouns" to your profile, it will display in posts next to your username.

                                                                                                                                                  happy wooting :)

                                                                                                                                                  ~ @alexia


                                                                                                                                                  #wafrn #wafrn-update

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                                                                                                                                                    [?]R.O.S.I.E 5448 [she/her] » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                    @rosie@0x4d4f5448.systems

                                                                                                                                                    Why not just use a metadata value, like SNAC2?;

                                                                                                                                                    CC: @alexia@app.wafrn.net

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                                                                                                                                                      [?]Alexia ΘΔ [she/they] » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                      @alexia@app.wafrn.net

                                                                                                                                                      because it is significantly easier to implement and more widely used across different fedi cultures and software.

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                                                                                                                                                        [?]R.O.S.I.E 5448 [she/her] » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                        @rosie@0x4d4f5448.systems

                                                                                                                                                        More widely used;
                                                                                                                                                        Just went through my following list (with an essentially random selection of Key-likes, Akkoma, and Masto-likes) and 21/25 have pronoun metadata fields;

                                                                                                                                                        CC: @admin@app.wafrn.net

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                                                                                                                                                          [?]Alexia ΘΔ [she/they] » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                          @alexia@app.wafrn.net

                                                                                                                                                          …when you say "metadata field" we do mean the same thing right?

                                                                                                                                                          I want to be clear that we use the same key:value fields that every other fedi software (except misskey) uses.

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                                                                                                                                                            [?]R.O.S.I.E 5448 [she/her] » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                            @rosie@0x4d4f5448.systems

                                                                                                                                                            Physical documentation is the best form of documentation;

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                                                                                                                                                            [?]R.O.S.I.E 5448 [she/her] » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                            @rosie@0x4d4f5448.systems

                                                                                                                                                            Fuck URL omnibars, if I make a typo in the TLD of a domain I don't want a search engine to look it up for me;

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